Im seeing in between. Hes a mechanic by trade, but used to drive trucks and works for a local trucking company with a high profile. Thats why he has those Packers boots on. We believe that his truck got towed later on when his wife never showed up with the keys, that Mr. X searched Ron Logans land that evening with two other men, and that he left his truck sitting in that same spot for 18 hours until the next day when the bodies were found. Then there is always the question of his occupation. Only a deer kit looks just like that. Police officers announced about the Delphi massacre. If you cant handle such material, dont read! He was also scared to join her group because I was in there and he was afraid of me. On February 13, 2017, Liberty German, age 14, and Abigail Williams, age 13, were hiking on the Delphi Historic Trail near the Monon High Bridge just east of Delphi in Carroll County, Indiana.. Kline is being held in jail after being arrested on separate child porn charges in 2020. Nations was connected to the Delphi murder because of the similarities between the crimes, and because he bore a strong resemblance to the preliminary police sketch of the Delphi suspect. Problem is they only have nine markers on that partial sample. In the years before his arrest, Miller had left numerous notes in public places saying the killer of Tinsley would strike again. It was dark. These are the only claims that people can hold us to because with all the rest, we openly admit that the claims are Unverified, so we should not be held to any of those claims. The catfish had been catfishing those girls for four months. Breathe so we can comment in between paragraphs pleaser. Because no debt or grudge or anything can ever justify 2 little girls being murdered. Granted, we dont have any evidence that this is true other than Leigh Kerrs statements. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15568704. We dont know why he asked permission to search Ron Logans land at 6:30 PM, but this is also a huge red flag because he asked to search the land a full half hour before the fire department had even announced the formation of a search team. An image taken from the video was released years ago as police asked for information to help them find the unknown suspect. This lines up nicely with Leigh Kerrs testimony where he said that BG used binoculars in this crime. They have thought they had the right guy several times in the Zodiac case, but all of the suspects fell through. Bottom line is the quality of our sources has increased dramatically over time. How often to killers, of children or otherwise, take fucking photos and videos of their goddamned crimes? An Indiana bar owner has revealed that the suspect arrested in the Delphi massacre of two teenage girls was a patron at his inn who often sat inches away from police sketches of the wanted killer. All of the speculation about their final moments is unconfirmed. If any of you want to sift through there and find some interesting stuff and post it here, please feel free to go for it. The girls bodies were found near a hiking trail on February 14, 2017 a day after they went missing while on a walk during a day off from school. Yes, I know. The crime scene photos have been widely trashed as paraedolia. For five years, the murders of 13-year-old Abby Williams and 14-year-old Libby German have hung over Delphi, ghosts that couldn't be put to rest. Investigators said the person behind the account posed as the model in order to groom underage girls and get them to send nude photos and their addresses and try to get them to meet. It is now learned that he was arrested on two counts of murder, however, officials said the case is far from complete.. It was all over by 3:30. Then again, what if it wasnt? We dont know if or when he worked for them before or after. I think he already knew that they would be there. The only thing I can think of is it was too gruesome, in their mind, to release," Garrett said. Im not saying anymore in an attempt to protect LEs directive. The Indiana State Police on Friday made progress in the 2017 cold case, commonly known as the Delphi murders. Investigators believe the man is the killer. Enough is enough. But after reading all of this my personal opinion I think 3 people are involved. Would be interesting to know if Garett Kirts was on Ron Logans property that day. Possibly works with kids. "It seems like there is something more to it than just a gun.". The behavior of LE throughout the entirety of this case is, to put it as nicely as possible, questionable, and to state the truth, just plain stupid. But I see the home is raised. Welcome to the site! I dont know why that stood out to me. Id be surprised if he were in on this, but stranger things have happened. The authorities have been purposeful in not disclosing much information about the Delphi Murders. Oh one more thing. They are most likely related to one another, but your description of Mr. X confuses the two. And if it was 43 seconds, it would be on Libbys phone! Missing for 2 years at the age of 5 and reported 2 years later out of Manchester, NH. The FBI can also be used to determine whether there was a danger to the community and the impact of it on the community. In the Delphi case, a signature could be very evident if both victims . Clearly very familiar with the area of the crime and perhaps knew it as well as the back of his hand. Is that also speculation? Delphi Murders Update April 13, 2021: Stunning Rumors about the Murders and Related Matters Now Officially Proven! So hes a murderer. One of his many interesting hobbies was abducting and raping young women. How do you know that LE has someone they believe is BG? Only his hands, particularly focused on his bloody, sausage-like knuckles, could be seen with a caption that read after the brawl.. He has since been moved to a state facility for his own safety. He does not work there at the moment. Five years later, Abigail Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, were taken into custody Friday five years after Allen, 50, was found dead on a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, in February 2017. Cause of death of one girl was a deep cut to the throat. I do not feel comfortable using his initials or certainly his name. No Im just a mechanic in Boston Mass. Not so much for 15 year old girls. Both of these people were probably ragers before, so its not like they did a U-turn. Can we prove it? Kline is being held in jail after being arrested on separate child porn charges in 2020. Now, Im not a member of LE, and I have never claimed to have investigation experience, but I believe Im a fairly intelligent person with at least average reasoning skills. For instance, if LE have a suspect, and they have a partial present in 10% of the population, this is one more bit of evidence that might point towards them having the right guy. [Featured image: Abby (l) and Libby (r)/Handout], Alex Murdaugh Begins Prison Sentence With New Haircut, What About Buster Murdaugh? Maybe he sent it to Libbys phone. . Im actually a rather shy, introverted, cautious, and extremely polite person who is terrified of making people mad, getting called creepy, offending people, etc. Investigators think the bodies of slain Delphi girls, Abby Williams and Libby German, were staged and moved at the crime scene, court documents obtained by The Murder Sheet podcast revealed; the shows founders joined Nancy Grace and her expert guests on Wednesdays Crime Stories to discuss the case. LE thinks he stashed his phone at the CPS building during the murders. How do you know he had a deer kit and how many knives he had? In September of 2020, messages started flowing on the web that were purportedly between the one who discovered the young ladies' bodies and his companion. We obtained this document via a public records request. And I cant wait to see what they get from RL about Mr. X. We can look into any case we want! Every podcast is all about them! One said hes a real nice guy and hes obviously a ladies man lol. If I were on the jury, the only thing I would care about was whether the state had proved that Mr. X committed this crime. Bob Matlock, owner of the now-closed Jessies Bar & Grill, said Richard Matthews Allen and his wife were regular customers, often talking about the murders of 14-year-old Liberty Libby German and 13-year-old in 2017. Sometimes victims are posed as a signature as if to say when I do this again you will recognize my handy work and give me the credit although we have no evidence to suggest there was any posing at all. Meanwhile, Kegan Kline, an Indiana man accused of child exploitation and child pornography, says police told him he was the last person to communicate with one of the girls. FSG has been someone that I cannot let go of either. A chilling picture shows the daughter of the man arrested in connection to the Delphi bridge murders posing in the same spot where the teenage victims were last seen alive. They have most recently stated that they want to avoid double jeopardy. Im not sure if pregnancy can be confirmed via autopsy before 6 weeks. Continue reading to find out what the alleged Delphi Murders leaked text messages are all about. Then come email me and I will send you a link to the private group and a password to get you in. Theres just journalists. Even if somehow she didnt know about some surrounding neighbors, couldnt LE just show her (or FSG or the bickering couple in the park etc,) a pic of Mr. X and get verification that way? He was 18 in 1984, so we figured he graduated that year, but maybe he graduated in 1986 when he was 20. LE has already looked into him quite a bit, and I assume hes cleared. R/LibbyandAbby does allow rumors and speculations, so at least they get some good posts and posters, while the overall mood is still a downer. John Miller, 63, was arrested in 2018 for the 1988 cold-case rape and murder of 8-year-old April Tinsley. Unverified but Likely. He parked 1,000 feet away from Rons door, almost a quarter mile away. Even after the arrest of a suspect on Oct. 26, police have declined to answer most questions about the case, saying they don't want to jeopardize the prosecution. After the girls body was found, at the time of her murder, the local police chased other suspects in connection with the case, but nothing stuck. . We believe he staged the crime with these elaborate props either before or after the crime from this exact location. They were town volunteers, right? I would think a crime like this would occur and the perpetrator would be gone. All I ask is that you say that our suspect is named Mr. X, and we absolutely refuse to identify this man. The judge would say you dont even have enough evidence against this man to take this case to court and throw it out of court. In the case of the search of the Maxwell home, a gun was taken from the home in order to do ballistics tests on it. Mr. X not only discovered the bodies, but he ran away in terror afterwards. What makes even less sense to me are some of the things that they have said or at least have not challenged as not being factual. Abby was the one that had the boyfriend. Im not sure I understand what covered means. They talked to Ron and he allowed them to park on her land. Good ones and bad ones, perhaps, but theres no such thing as legitimate versus illegitimate. Investigators said in the probable cause affidavit that they believe Allen is the man seen on the video. He could have worn those boots over his jeans, and he wouldnt have gotten wet. The authorities have been purposeful in not disclosing much information about the Delphi Murders. That is the exact location whereLibby German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, filmed an unidentified man approaching them on the day of their February 2017 deaths. If anyone else is involved they know who it is. Kelsi has been investigated quite a bit, and she has been interviewed a few times by the FBI, including a couple of times at her school. "Why would the police withhold [the cause of death]? In a press conference on Monday, the state police took the first step towards providing justice to the brutally killed juveniles. Unverified and Probably Not True. This Feb. 13, 2017, file photo released by the Indiana State Police shows a man walking along the trail system in Delphi, Ind., authorities say is the suspect in the killings of two teenage girls. A blogger/sleuthed named Robert Lindsay supposedly has one on his site, there's a camera flashing on it. I found your article very interesting and thought provoking. So when LE said the younger sketch is the one who committed the crime, they were correct! Henceforth, he will be known as LE Source A. Libby also shared a snap of herself walking along the same railroad tracks on the day of her murder, with the Snapchat updates causing a sensation that made the case one of the United States' most notorious unsolved murders. We believe that this happened in the first place because a photo exists of a truck being towed from the CPS building around February 14. If so, why? Lets call this the intuitive hunch of an MI veteran. Clothing soaked in blood, seen and unseen. And if Mr. X was being tried today and I was on the jury, I would certainly vote to acquit. We dont know about you all, but when we go visit our friends, we generally dont park a quarter mile away and hike in. That is the statement from the woman on the search team. Investigators tracked Logans activities on the day of the murders and determined he was not forthcoming. We suppose if was listening to a police scanner, he could have known that early, but whats the likelihood of Mr. X listening to a police scanner between 5:30-6:30 PM on the day of the crime? I do not believe the girls were reported missing and the FBI was immediately called in. There is so much junk, lies, theory, you name it, it is there. For information on these documents, see the special section below where their nature and provenance is explained. What? Do you feel that the KAK (Anthony_shots) announcement is a red herring or that its linked to the Delphi murders? There is a main suspect who has been the main suspect for a very long time. This whole case just reeks of something stinky every which way you turn. He took it with him in some sort of hunting pack? He has pleaded not guilty to the charges. This person was going to share the pictures regardless, they just wanted to be asked first to make themselves feel better is my guess. I want you to know that your comment is no longer there. Keep in mind that we are not claiming that anything listed below as Unverified is true, although some it has a good chance of being true. There are 244 comments there. I am not revealing the name of the main suspect here and will only refer to him as Mr. X. I also request all commenters to also refer to him as Mr. X. I do this as a simple measure to try to protect his identity. Furthermore, homicide is the most serious thing you can charge anyone with. The Delphi murders are a bizarre crime that has sparked nationwide attention. I hope someday this horrendous crime will be solved. Bottom line is our theories now are dramatically more accurate than the 85% error rate we had earlier. Deals with gruesome matters concerning the brutal sex murders of four female minors mostly about two young teenage girls aged 13 and 14 but also a bit about related murders of two little girls aged 8 and 10. All other POIs are dropped or cleared at least as being the killers themselves. Heavily redacted court documents say that state police and the FBI encountered Kline in 2017 while conducting a search warrant in Peru, Indiana. The arrest of Allen could be the end of a years-long investigation during which numerous possible leads have led nowhere, and police have remained tight-lipped about details of the case. I am sure he was asked. (The person from the FB post that is) their bodies were quite close to water. A lot of my friends didnt join. This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. Busy location with a diner nearby. LE would also be interested in anyone who may have helped Mr. X after the crime, perhaps burning evidence or whatever. So the stellar members of LE have RL arrested and sent to jail all the while knowing he couldnt have committed this crime but doing NOTHING to stop the entire community from believing, first, that RL was a main suspect in the case,, and second, believing that he was in jail because he was a suspect! First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: Our private group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far and has been since it was founded four years ago in 2017. What is this guy, another Zodiac? Oh, one more thing, Jim. [43] Libby's grandmother, Becky, makes a deal with the girls. Can you spell out the name? DAs require a very high standard of evidence to bring a homicide charge against someone. Pretty soon these fucking machines that are dumber than rocks are going to be making all sorts of unappealable decisions about our lives because the capitalists are too greedy to hire a real human to do the job, so they buy a machine instead. You cannot keep your own story straight. Also if Kegans not involved, then neither is the father. Kline is said to have arranged to meet with Libby on the Delphi High Bridge the day before she was murdered while walking along it. He was right in the middle of all the police and media, and no one suspected him. Copyright 2023 Distractify. Thats actually how I was pointed to you because apparently, I copied from you (YouTube actually deleted these comments too ). I am running into one issue with Mr. X. I was wondering if there might be a different thought on this. Apparently there is a human need to wonder, guess, and posit. I seem like the nicest guy youve met. A brief clip of the man walking towards the girls on the Monon High Bridge Trail was released too. You write an article saying some guys not involved, and you get swamped with threats to track and hunt you down? I DO think that if there is evidence of staging that insinuates a methodology , therefore suggests it could be a serial killer. Im so sorry. He just wanted dirty pictures. Theyre not that common. This grainy image was taken on Libbys phone on the trail the day the girls went missing. There are some absolutely fascinating old rumors on there that I have never heard before, mostly having to do with Young BG and his possible presence or involvement at the crime scene. No one knows if he did this crime or not. Investigators have been mostly mum on many case details but a redacted warrant provides a glimpse into information surrounding the murder scene, suspect, and victims. Anyhow on YT one of the titles says former cheerleader. Not that thats necessarily relevant to the case, just that one of your pics above makes more sense now lol. The full clip is reportedly 43 seconds long, but its contents are believed to be too disturbing to share in full. No longer in state. Your critiques are not even making sense. Have you been in contact with her at all? That can only mean one thing. Anyway, where you at with this case now? Mr. X is married to BP sister which makes him Libbys uncle not blood relatedheard it somewhere on the Net it would be easy for you RL to check that out . Back to the POI, in February 2017, he lived next door to the cemetery which makes his actions and ruse around his truck & keys even more suspicious, if that is possible. According to the warrant, Logan said he was in Lafayette on the day of the murders, visiting an aquarium. Theres something different about this casing, it stood out to me. There is no way he would come back later to stage anything because he wouldnt know how safe it was or how many law enforcement would be around. A large amount of blood was lost by the victims at the crime scene, an agent wrote in the warrant. It has been said there were dolls and stuffed animals around the girls. Hes a greedy businessman with dollar signs in fluttering eyes that sound like clanging cash registers every time he blinks. People were getting very into it, but I really saw nothing. Photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, and film. Found an interesting article regarding the act of stating and posing bodies. Really. He posted a photo on Facebook around three weeks to a month after the murders. A few people were claiming it was Abby leaned against a tree with her face covered in blood, claw marks on the ground, and a pool of blood a few feet away. The unusual position concepts of posing and staging a murder victim hav Hes innocent. You mentioned a pic of CSI workers with a doll a couple of days ago did anything come of this? 2) There was a shot that was deliberately fired into the creek in an attempt to scare Libby, whom was attempting to evade Mr. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The dots connecting back to Iowa with the Tyson plant etc is great investigative work. We dont know who his roommate was in Delphi and then again in Evansdale, and we also dont know what sort of work they had both been moved over there for. Mr. X was a senior in high school at the time. 13, 2017. At least two prior marriages. Allen is a married pharmaceutical technician. You Go Girl! DELPHI, Ind. If LE actually believes that BG was 50 years old, why did they put out this statement that he looks like this ridiculous sketch of a very young man or even an 18-40 year old man? So Mr. X did not ask him to search for his keys, he was officially asking to search for the girls according to ol Ronny boy. He currently resides in prison for videotaping himself having sex with a 15 year old. It says at one point apparently Machine Operator as a title, but then the vid definitely makes it a point to focus on Christian Teen Club. Not sure what the implication is there, but one can certainly imagine. Do you know why FSG was there at the trails; how long hed been there; how he got there; if he drove, what sort of car he drove and where he parked it. Also we dont know what they interrogated Ron about either. There is a press conference on Monday at 10 a.m. We will say more. Kegan Anthony Kline, 27, is allegedly the man behind a fake social media account that investigators. Police officers announced about the Delphi massacre. And there are some good posters on r/LibbyandAbby; its just that they happen to be in the minority and all the best posters get downvoted to Hell and the people who are dead wrong get scores of upvotes! For more than five years, the families of the two girls have been searching for answers as to what happened and who was responsible for their murders. It has those wooden, beaded seat covers. The two men may have been working at the Tyson plant in Logansport, Indiana and may have been shipped to the sister Tyson plant in Waterloo, Iowa, where they were put up temporarily in motels for months at a time. FSG is at the trails every day. I 100% agree about Mr X, and I recently seen a pic of his stepson which I think looks similar to the YBG sketch. Posed, which I believe is what this scene is, that is for the offenders gratification.. Kegan Kline, 27, of Peru, Indiana, was also named as a suspect in the murders. He prefers whiskey, its his drink of choice and hes off without it. On the other hand, a sample with only nine markers is absolutely not usable in court. There was a helicopter/drone photoset going around in a FB group in the last few days (don't remember which group). Cookie Notice I I heard the girls say repeatedly, Its Elementary Watson, and 2 plus 2 equals 4. But my opinion isnt worth anything. I find it very hard to believe either of the girls were targeted by anyone-everything about this case screams random attack by a killer who knew the most likely location to find female victims he could easily overpower. There may never be an arrest in this case. I am creating a special article about this to link to in order to deal with the constant hate comments in this regard so I dont have to keep going over this stuff in every update. Another one of the videos had what Im assuming is a LinkedIn profile of some sort spliced into the slide show for a brief moment. It is interesting that they are looking for precisely 43 seconds of audio. Do the searchers who found the bodies know if they were posed? I saw the local Delphi News footage from the week of the murders where they interview Ron Logan while they are actually searching his property. If one of the girls was pregnant, was the pregnancy a result of intercourse with Mr X? While we see a giant plush bear, thats too weird, so we will defer to the search party lady and agree with her statement. Why would the police lie about where they found them tho that doesnt make sense. He also allegedly asked his cousin to back up his story before the girls bodies had been found. It is important to note that the validity of the text messages has not and cannot be corroborated at this time. I noticed your nice comment on my YouTube page, thank you so much for your reply! The case for Mr. X is as solid as ever.