I agree with the last post, searching for models should not be a pain. If you are a buyer you don't have a lot of time to find what you want especially if you are buying on behalf of your company. (These stats can be confirmed as true by CGtrader staff, we have no problem with that). People may think that having that option makes it more likely for sellers to see their work by placing their models in the incorrect category but actually that just irritates buyers who may just go elsewhere to buy. When pressed, Turbosquid could give no clearer specification than "it is too similar". (I'm aware this involves many aspects) On the contrary, comparing 2013 to 2014 for the exact same period (January to August) our sales INCREASED in a 45%. [link="http://www.google.com"]google1[/link] All because of search. A possible solution for potential buyers looking to sample the work of sellers, would be for sellers to have their free sample models at a low minimal price instead of free. It makes you blind and clueless to how a customer is actually using your product and how well it integrates in his business and future activities. After 60 days, we will put your content back online. I like the concept of CGtrader very much, hope to see the duality issues resolved. High hopes for Cgtrader. Rigged models are great for art projects, games, movies or VR experiences, because they save a lot of development time. The last handful of successful high end 3D studios still buy those models because they know that the scenes have to be clean, geometry has no odd manifold or abnormal issues and the modelers have to jump through all kinds of hoops to ensure the quality of the model including providing high quality 360 renders. The site owners could also act on other various levels : Prices do not include additional fees, such as shipping . I was victim of that there a few months ago, I had a bad rating when the model have never had a problem during many years. Plus giving much higher royalties, instantly paid, much better support, publishing system, etc. Thus by searching to widen its audience, the buyer only decrease the site credibility. Look for the big picture and think medium/long term. To my repliers: Yes CGtrader is great! CGt embraces all modern communication technologies which is critical to establish such a place. Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. Luckily, non of my sells on TS were refunded so far and i had 3 refunds on CGT, 2 of them was caused by technical reasons from CGT side. This is why: ,,Checkmate,, from TS was actually invented by Jonathan Lloyd, the person who ruined Pixel SQUID :). I guess CGTrader should send out advertising to the companies, but I'm sure they are doing/done it already. Rigged 3D models are available in Autodesk 3ds Max (.max), Maya (.ma), Softimage (.xsi), Cinema 4D (.c4d) and many other file formats. Its great way to compete and fair . I'm glad CGtrader and its community of supporters is able to make this situation come to an end. I see no point in closing when you might as well keep it open and get a couple sales. No frankly, it's a bloody mystery. what you say doesn't make any sense because CGTrader has a 100 percent guarantee return policy on all models as far as I know. A own store where you can fill your offers with stuff found in the large pool would account for a thumbs up for the people hoes products get placed in those stores. No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. The "crap models", "under-priced models" issue is a very sensitive topic that should be discussed. We initially did the 3D printing focused homepage after noticing that CG customers skip the homepage and come directly to product page, mostly knowing exactly what they need for their projects, while 3D printing customers need more direction and inspiration, so that even non-professionals can discover this new industry. A real pointless task. and resurrect it without that 3dprinting nonsense. https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/exterior/landmark/notre-dame-de-paris-cathedral-61d97afb1b1a62861673c23f15b75c12, All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. I'm even considering seriously closing my store here. CGTrader is extremely accessible, perhaps too much so for its own good in some lights. They can present the model screenshots straight from their helpdesk and ensure the client is not being screwed? The fact that you can upload models immediately rather than waiting 3 months for them to get reviewed by some random people that won't have the time + the website design and the community inside CGTrader. 60% is an insult. the only advantages in cgtrader are the big rates for clients. A rig is like a skeleton of a 3D model, which lets you move and pose it with little effort. Be very wary when the artist is from India or other similar countries. [13google->http://www.google.com/] It's true. However, we have detected that you have set your prices back numerous times after we have made appropriate changes. you should check out all the posts about 3D models quality. Change Method. Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, + blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). From point of buyer who wants to buy a classic 3D model (cg) there is no way I will start searching on cgtrader. Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. I have met a bunch of really good artists here that I have had the pleasure of working with. At least some aspects of it. CGT is the only website that really understand both the artists and customer needs! CGtrader might have better conditions, rules and everything but it's useless if it doesn't attract more buyers. TS removes this rating. They provide clients with pretty much everything they could possibly want at reasonable prices and have a 100 percent guarantee return policy on all their items. You are clearly one of the professional buyers who doesn't take advantage of the system but there are so many out there who do that and 3D sites are beginning to try to safe guard their artist's work by not making it so easy to just get everything you want for free. Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. I like how there is no join up fee. Do not forget to check out rigged vehicles, guns and other objects, including environments, in addition to rigged characters to increase the control and interactivity you can achieve in your project. When a buyer leaves a bad rating for a lame reason , TS investigate and contact the buyer and if he doesn't give a serious explanation, This is a totally separate "operation" that is going on under the acquisitions of CGstudio and T3DFM, which serve also as noisy cover to "wag the dog". I don't know if that is still the case ( and I have no desire to check ) but that is advertising that is hard to beat. Old thread but still relevant, do yourself a favour and cut back on the seafood, delete TS bookmarks and make progress here. If anything buyers should get lots of points for buying. Sales dropped to almost nothing. I will very much want to peruse. - It's much easier to upload products here than at TS. Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, + blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, + c4d unitypackage upk max ma c4d max ma fbx max, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). I would expect those kinds of charges from a real art gallery with real world space that could sell my work for 10,000 a pop, not some virtual space that sells my work for 50 bucks. Thanks for sharing Your experience and thoughts. Sometimes you have to support the buyer. [google7|http://www.google.com] Allot of snags and details need to be worked out in order to make this sorts of things happen but the main idea here is to have complimentary forces working together to make a better product. Work directly with a 3D artist for your project. This would be a really good way of encouraging buyers to come spend their money on CGtrader where they can find what they want faster than on other sites. For me CGTrader is the best and CGTrader has the best structure of a 3d site !!! I guess it is because of the youth of the site, which has not yet reached its maturity. In fact, 61% comes out against 40%, since the paypal commission on cgtrader is borne by the seller, the site pays commission on turbosquid. If CGT would manage to draw more buyers from TS then even more sellers would migrate here. And it is convenient for the buyer and profitable for the seller. In fact, I had taken deliberate steps to ensure that I included no content in my designs that could even be construed as overlap. Maybe the home page should be a very simple page with only two huge buttons [CG models] and [3D Printing]. Blendswap.com5. Since then, I think the design has gotten much better, especially the separation between regular CG and 3D print, and the search algorithm seems also to be much more efficient. This would have probably be true for newcomers 5 years ago, but now that is different. You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. At one hand I could think this was indeed evidence that Ts had some clients that do not know about CGt. Imagine how much easier it would be for a games company to do a search by typing in (sword, 15 dollars and then 500 polygons. That is where the true value of 3D is today but unless someone can show the masses that this kind of thing can be done at a reasonable price ,(based on market value), then 3D will continue to be a half dead market until it will die completely because robotics have reached an advanced stage where they will soon be able to replace artists. They say you can price things anyway you want but then they take down your models if they do not agree with how you price them. [quote]1. Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. If you have any questions about these. From moment I have enough things to sell here, I would come clean with myself and close my TS account with great pleasure. Very soon there will be robots that can scan objects faster than any modeler can model them and then reproduce a print almost instantly in 10 to 30 years 3D jobs will be irrelevant but until then someone needs to really bring CGtrader to the big markets. Basically giving your money to a tyrant of a service, not even free to set price on your own products accordingly. You don't even seem to get reputation points for purchasing items, assuming I've read the page correctly, and if that is the case it's just dumb. My response was, not going to do that, its my work I decide the price. Logout from your account and go to CGTrader home page. I'm about to bail on this site now - unless I can find any other topics that I might be qualified to post toapparently if I'm friendly enough I can earn some points, but it's seriously unlikely that I'll find any topics to which I can actually contribute. Typically, large corporate buyers, they find a way to contact me even and on TS and make an offer on a specific project. It is currently selling on the of TS is much higher than on CGT. "google8":www.google.com, google10 I ended up terminating my account, seeing as I couldn't operate the store under such conditions - not only did I risk having the work I'd put in uploading items undone at any moment, I also had no idea what pitfalls I had to avoid to not have items taken down. These changes are part of the new TurboSquid Best Price Guarantee (https://resources.squid.io/?p=14893) in which we are assuring TurboSquid customers that they can always find the lowest prices on our site. But if you are on Turbosquid as an exclusive sale (models will be sold only on the website TurboSquid), Cgtrader can lose and this position, in favor of TS I could go on and on, it kept me puzzled. still turbosquid has the most paying clients. So part of the problem would probably be solved if a buyer would indeed get reputation points for buying models and gain more access in the process. the success of CGTrader (and other sites as well) contributed to that. The system would make a seller more responsible and promote a culture of diversification (in theory). Turbosquid has the traffic and so you get the sails. - An improvement in search results based on manual rating from sellers and/or CGtrader staff. Same with copyright infringements, same with low quality models (a friend of mine bought recently a model here, which was supposed to be .OBJ compatible : but the seller had just exported the obj from its original program, without even editing the mtl file to have the textures loaded automatically ! And yes .. "CG Trader has made their world about 3d printing". Here only I have doubts it would be fair to do do is a difference of 20..25% in the price of its models, which are intended for sale in the CGT and TS? 3D Model characters people woman This is a photorealistic high-quality 3D full-body scan female character It has been sculpted and optimized for animation and game engines with a clean topology. Delhi Escort I think CGTrader just has to advertise itself more.. everything else will fall into place.. CG traders designer rank rep points. TurboSquid is garbage. there is low quality traffic on cgtrader and also became too much focused on 3d printing models so gets affordable if u have many low quality printable models of cheap prices. [http://www.google.com google5 ] http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/cgtrader.com, https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/exterior/landmark/notre-dame-de-paris-cathedral-61d97afb1b1a62861673c23f15b75c12, https://www.facebook.com/ActiveKetoGummiesAustraliaWebsite. Tom cat cartoon character rigged for Maya 12. Honestly I feel that it would be better to sell n bit slower that to have your models stolen. I had hoped that CGTrader would want to be the kings but i have to be honest if you licence a thing only here you have to own it forever, as you cannot sell that licence. 3. TS has bather page rank, when someone searches the net it will come on top, simple because it is an older website. Bangalore Escort 3D Model jimmy choo. [google][http://www.google.com|google4 ] Payment Method Machines have already replaced people making their jobs irrelevant in many fields already more and more customer service jobs have become automated, many store sales positions now are not needed because so much is being done online, the tolls on the highways now only use fast track or you get a letter in the mail telling you to pay it because there is no one in the booth anymore so you can't pay it on the road. A rig is like a skeleton of a 3D model, which lets you move and pose it with little effort. However, if you are found to be out of compliance again, your collection will be taken offline for a more extended period of time. I would even make the prediction that most of what will be left of Ts (following months) are the exclusive sellers, they will probably get very frustrated and come over here no matter what deals they made with Ts. in the name of freedom expression of the buyer (???). Same for me, here. Alhamdulillah, we finished making the car! For me is more offending that kids are able to sell models here. The first thing you see is almost only 3D printing assets. But for the rest i do like the way cgtrader functions, more royalty rate, easy uploading and a community forum and job board. "Even being a diamond doesnt seem to give me the benefits of sale coz TS takes so much from my sales (everyone's sale) that i would hardly call it profit or any acceptable income. They already sell 3D printers on amazon so it isn't a far stretch to just add the models in the suggested items that go with 3D printers. We need to broaden our spectrum and clientele if we want to make more money. In my experience often times a client will ask for certain models but then one must take into consideration what computer specs they have because you don't want your client to get frustrated with the models you buy. However, I will agree that sales here aren't as good as TS. Click here to submit yours . I know I personally would be Heh.. that's another topic but my top selling model is nude. I've often (not just at this site) downloaded "free" items to verify their quality before purchasing models from a vendorI had problems with 3-4 of the "free" items I looked at first here (having no idea there was a limit), and now I can download no more. Maybe you think my words are disproportionate or naive but mark them now. This industry really needs a giant hub were al CGpeople (weather young and inexperienced ore diehard veterans) can communicate, learn, trade, fundraise and collaborate. Don't know if it's already mentioned in this thread, but in TS you have a refund system, when customer buyed your product has ability to bring back his money and it'll subracted from your earnings, if he doesn't like a model for some reason. Most of the Ts artists also moved their work over here and almost everyone knows that, just not the ones hoe are exclusive, it's not going to take too long now before they systematically start breaking the exclusive contract when they see sales going down every month and things going up over here. All that time that we didn't have to spent dealing with Turbosquid bad support went to more time for artistic work. --GENERAL--. In response he founded this place on the core principal that the artist would come first. That is true, but im talking if buyer is already familiar with existence of CGTrader, he can reap all the benefits then. Having too many high poly models in 1 scene can considerably slow down rendering times, work flow and even crash your computer making the entire scene unusable. TurboCrooks should be boycotted by artists since they are the one responsible for the situation! See ourPrivacy Policyfor more information. Site issues? They simply do not get the idea that Turbosquid is just another reseller for the real product developers, and Turbosquid management and "rules" promote exactly that. @skifx, @made21, my royalty rate is 80% and i earn from each sale from 72% to 77% depending on the model's price - the pricier the model is, the lesser payment processing fee gets. So many more buyers would actually have a look at what they have because sometimes you want to buy a special toy Please don't get impression that i'm trying to bash CGT, i don't i favor CGT over TS any day, but i want that they up their game in this concurent buisness. - Once in a while, alert all designers that a cleaning operation will be made, and wipe out objects that are of a too bad quality or copyright infringements. You know what is cgtrader but as firstcomer you must have strong impression that this is 3d printing site where you can buy new 3d printed iphone case which will be shipped to you. Turbosquid has a bot spying cgtrader prices. The age of 3D models is over and people have moved on to 3D printing. But it should be also possible to turn this filter off. I'm probably leaving this site for good, but it won't be because of you guys - it's because of the site itself. Founded in 2000, Turbosquid has championed growth in the 3D space through partnerships with leaders in the industry. On the other hand, reason for refund should be solid. former the 3d studio, 3D export, creative crash and Turbosquid). And I've done the same thing on Turbosquid, in the same period of time. Turbosquid bites the hands that feed them: Brittney Briere, Sep 18, 09:53 SST: Maybe I live in an unrealistic parallel reality, where at least some people still have some dignity and know how and when to differentiate good vs evil and take a public stand with actions instead of just words. I believe this would solve the 'bad content mixed with the quality models' problem.
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